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Every Sunday Night Carolyne Prevost, Jamie Latimer and Scott Switzer break down the news of the week in the CrossFit and Fitness Space.  This week we look back on the IF3 debacle as well as the WFP having their own issues and yes more withdrawls. Plus we will play another round of Pencil, Pen or Sharpie.

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What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

What a wild week of people trying to

outdo each other's mistakes.

We're going to talk about all that next.

what is going on everybody welcome to

sunday sunday sunday night crossfit talk

there we're back another week another

sunday we're here the timing of that

sunday one was good today sometimes you

have to like you're a little slow

sometimes but you're on it was perfect

today yeah i actually hit it before i

finished talking oh that's that's the

trick right there

Yeah, yeah.

We got CrossFit.

We've got Terry.

We've got Meredith.

We've got Trent.

All of the spin came in to say

there's lots of news breaking.

Trust me,

trying to keep up with the day is

crazy.

CrossFit is officially withdrawing from

this show.

Like you're having withdrawals?

What?

Oh, no.

He's like the WFP.

Oh.

Kipping it real came here to say fire

Mike Tomlin because my wife said,

who is Mike Tomlin?

If he wins another game,

he'll be the tenth winningest coach in NFL

history.

But that's debatable after the way they

performed tonight.

But speaking of football,

my Chicago Bears are currently sitting as

the number one seed in the NFC.

Are you kidding me?

I did not have that on my bingo

card this year.

Right.

Me neither, but they're doing so good.

And now they're starting to beat some good

teams.

Some good teams.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

Everybody's talking about the DBE thing.

We are definitely going to get into that.

That's wild.

Is it?

Yes.

Is it?

Yes.

Yes.

We'll get into that when we get there.

So, yeah,

we've got a lot of people in the

chat.

Being the second winningest comes with

twenty million and a twenty four year old

cheerlead.

Very, very.

Yes.

Yes.

That is.

Cross that that may be the wildest story

in the last two years.

Bill Belichick retiring from or leaving

the NFL,

hooking up with a twenty four year old

cheerleader.

It's weird.

It is just weird.

It is weird.

North Carolina?

Yeah.

And like she's very involved too.

Like in the pregame.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Legal but weird.

Yeah.

Legal but weird.

Yeah.

So weird.

It's weirder and grosser.

The no drama coach, more drama than ever.

Yeah.

I'm glad we don't have that.

My coach just takes off his shirt to

give the whole city of Chicago free hot

dogs.

And if you're not following,

the wiener circle in Chicago said if Ben

Johnson ever took off his shirt in the

post-game celebration,

they would give free hot dogs to the

city of Chicago.

He did it this week in the post

game celebration.

So Tuesday in Chicago,

go to the wiener circle, free hot dogs.

Wow.

Um,

he Williams sucked up my fantasy this

week, this week, I will say.

Yeah,

he's not a great fantasy quarterback.

No.

I had Burrows at the beginning of the

year,

but then once he got his injury and

he was going to be out for months,

I dropped him.

There was no good QBs available.

I think I still have Tua.

Tua was terrible today.

Yeah, I gave up on fantasy.

Jenny says the Wiener Circle sounds like a

fun place.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Yeah.

train all of my my fantasy team is

bipolar yeah am i in last uh i

don't think so you actually started off

with a couple wins not not even knowing

that you drafted anybody or how to switch

players you won i'm annoyed because i like

football a lot and i watch it all

the time so i'm annoyed that like my

team just sucks and i just don't really

know how to play it

Did you all,

I know that in Canada you didn't celebrate

Thanksgiving this week, but Jamie,

did you have a good Thanksgiving?

We had a good Thanksgiving.

Yes.

Yep.

Got with Aaron's side of the family on

Thanksgiving and then hung out with my

sister, um, on Friday night.

So yeah, made the rounds.

That's great.

Uh, Aaron Frazier with a good one.

Isn't that a Colton place?

The wiener circle.

Sounds about right.

Since he sells his wiener dogs.

Mm-hmm.

Andrew says he's last.

First to be eliminated from playoff

contention like three weeks ago.

First in the bottom.

So I was home alone for Thanksgiving

because of the sinus infection and

everything.

And my nephew showed up with Thanksgiving

food.

And it was awesome.

I didn't think I would miss it,

but it was really nice to have it.

And his turkey was moist.

Like I've never had him.

Moist piece of turkey until that day.

Moist.

And it was good.

It was good.

Usually it's dry as a bone.

Right.

So I really appreciate it.

And he had homemade cranberry sauce that

I've never had before.

And it was, I think I'm an addict.

Like if I would go out on the

street and find that stuff.

It was so good.

I tried asking my mom for like the

recipe of like why it's so juicy and

stuff.

And then she was writing this whole thing,

but it's all in French.

And I was like,

I think we just got to make like

a TikTok video or some sort of video

that just easier.

Cause a lot of people, like it just,

they eyeball it.

Right.

Right.

And there were so many things, right.

And I was like, Oh, I can't,

I can't share this.

Larry Young, four ninety nine.

Thank you so much, Larry.

Am I the only one ready for some

open talk?

Yes.

Yes, I am not ready for the open.

It's a little early for that.

We got to wait till after Christmas.

Nicole's asking that we not use the word

moist, but that's what it was.

How am I?

What do you see?

I don't see a moist turkey.

Right, right.

It's not a thing.

Juicy turkey.

Yeah.

We don't, we don't say, yeah,

I don't know where that came from.

It's fine.

In cooking terms.

You always want moist baking.

Maybe.

Kenneth says moist was the proper term.

All the women are like no moist.

Moist cake.

Correct.

Baking.

Yes.

Yes.

okay whatever um kenneth is saying french

or quebecois i don't can't even pronounce

it i'm with carolyn say juicy yeah juicy

tender we've got a tender that's okay too

uh crossfit says soggy meat no can't do

soggy meat

All right.

Well,

I'm glad you guys had a great

Thanksgiving.

We sent my daughter off today to Montana

on the plane.

Lots of tears at the airport.

But it was nice having her home for

nine days.

So that was cool.

And we had a great couple days before

she left.

But it's always sad to say goodbye.

But at least we had her here.

So blessed to have that.

But now back to the work week tomorrow.

So with that...

We'll start with the IF-III debacle.

It happened last weekend.

I didn't get to get your guys' impression

as to your thoughts on it at all.

For people who don't know,

the IF-III Masters Championships were held

in Australia last weekend.

It was a complete cluster of an event.

there were waterfall starts where they

encouraged you not to catch the person in

front of you, which is just insanity.

They had men and women going at the

same time in the same lane,

hoping they wouldn't run into each other.

They had no medical staff.

They had two clocks running and judges

looked at the wrong clocks for some of

the people.

So the times were way off on the

endurance event.

They tried to redo the event and halfway

through said the complaints were so bad

that they just were going to stop it.

But the people who redid it,

that could count for them if they wanted

to,

or they could use their original score.

But if you didn't get a chance,

you just got the original score or you

could choose to not have it count at

all.

And that's just,

that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Um, so I've given my thoughts this week.

I think the most horrific piece of this

is that there was no medical staff.

They're very lucky.

Something didn't happen.

Like, like Miriam that at, uh, that's my,

like just anything, anything can go wrong.

That's crazy to not have any medical

staff.

Yeah.

I can't imagine being the people in

charge.

And then one thing just goes wrong after

the other.

And you're like, okay,

we're going to try and do this.

And then you just don't think about this

and that happens.

And everything that could go wrong, just,

just goes wrong.

And I just,

I think I would just start crying.

Just not even know what to do.

Be like, oh my gosh,

I'm in charge of all of this right

now.

Like everything's going bad.

Oh, that must.

Yeah.

I mean, for a professional person,

event right that where they're trying to

make it to the olympics i don't know

for the masters division but like for the

other for the regular division for the

if-three can't have can't have this kind

of stuff happen who runs it is it

the same people that run the individual

So here's what happened.

So there is the IF-III.

It's a governing body.

They want to be an Olympic sport.

So that was the whole premise of this.

They run it like the Olympics.

The board puts out each event for bid.

and a country and their federation can

choose to then run the event.

Australia won the bid for this event,

and so then they were given the task

of running the event.

However,

I don't think that that means that you

lose oversight as how the event is run.

you're still the brand name of what's

going on and you would want to make

sure that none of that is tainted by

what happens at this event.

They have been running events since twenty

sixteen and pretty good events.

Shanna Bunce,

who is a frequent peer person to chat,

went to their Masters Games two years ago,

said it was super well run,

was one of the best events she's ever

been to.

But then something like this pops off

and it totally damages their credibility

and their name across all of their events

yeah i i didn't know even know that

this event was happening i i've watched

the individual one in years past um but

i guess i didn't even know that the

masters event was happening

Like, like,

like I thought the masters normally

happened the same weekend as the,

but now I know that doesn't.

Yeah.

But yeah, it miscommunication.

I think, you know,

someone was assuming someone else is going

to do something and then a bunch of

assumptions and all of a sudden you're

there and nothing has been organized.

Yeah.

I, I'm glad I wasn't there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, athletes just left.

After it started returning to what it did,

they just left.

That's tough because you spend a lot of

money to go to Australia and do an

event like this to be like, yeah, no,

I'm done.

On top of that, in Europe,

some countries subsidize their athletes

who participate in this.

That's what I was going to say.

A lot of them would be coming from

Europe.

Right.

So there's also government money being put

toward these athletes getting there and

doing this event.

And all of that is hosed by a

poor run event.

I mean,

if you've ever competed ever and you have

a water style event and you tell the

athlete,

try not to catch the person in front

of you,

that just is so counterintuitive to

anything competitive ever.

so i just wanted to get your thoughts

we don't need to spend a lot of

time on it a lot of people have

um there's a lot more big news coming

that we need to dive into but i

just wanted to throw that out there was

it was it live on youtube at all

like

It did not get streamed.

That also fell through.

There was a German contingent there

filming for them in Germany,

and they asked if they could share the

stream, and the German contingent said no.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

So I guess, like,

I think Spin and Hiller got some of

the German footage that showed some of the

stuff,

and you can go to their sites and

see some of that stuff.

But it, yeah.

Again, it was the tip of the iceberg.

There were so many things that were wrong.

Made NorCal look like the gold standard.

I mean, yeah.

I like NorCal.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's just mind-boggling.

I don't know how you...

I don't know how you have any knowledge

about the sport at all and can't think

through some of these things.

Well, there should be like a...

Best practice for any event that's going

on,

some sort of best practice list that

should be to all the directors of those

events.

And in the CrossFit space,

it should be shared between semifinals,

like what you should have done by this

date or how far ahead.

And then they obviously need to implement

something like that.

So this never happens again.

But you should have a list of things

that need to be at every comp.

We have made statements that CrossFit did

not have a lot of oversight at the,

at the age group games,

but they did have some oversight.

They were there.

They were present.

They did look at the workouts.

They may not have changed them,

but in their opinion,

there was nothing there that like this

debacle, right?

Yeah.

It was from oversight and they were, we,

we dogged them,

but at least they didn't let this happen.

yeah they were i mean i think crossfit

would always step in if there's if you're

trying to run two different groups at the

same time on one floor like that's just

it's just not unsafe right well if you

watch the hillar video they tried to do

it saying that they wouldn't run into each

other but there was a point where they

had to cross over right right that and

So anyway, we don't need to cut,

talk about that forever.

Uh,

one more thing before we get into like

the big news of the day.

And that is, uh,

I just found this from a listener who

sent this to me.

Um,

if you guys remember at the H group

CrossFit games, I said,

I heard two rumors and it's what kind

of started the smear campaign accusation.

And that was that there were going to

be six figure contracts next year to try

to attract people back to the WFP and

that they were going to run a full

master's competition next season.

So this comes out for monster games and

like four pages in,

there's a Q and a here,

and I'll try to blow this up because

it's on a graphic.

Is Monster Games still a qualifier for

Legends Championships?

Answer is yes.

We are also now an in-person qualifier for

Desert City Classic and World Fitness

Finals Masters Individual Division.

So it appears to me that there have

been negotiations about the WFP doing a

full masters season next year because,

and now you see that there are,

and it,

and their master season may just be a

qualifier to the finals.

Yeah.

We don't know,

but apparently the monster games are a

qualifier to those world fitness finals

next season.

And so I had heard this rumor when

I was at the age group games,

I was told after I announced that I

heard the rumor that I was just doing

a smear campaign,

but it appears now that there is something

in the works for a master's type season

next year.

My only, my,

my only other thought on this is you've

done so well in the individual side.

It's really time to expand and,

I mean, honestly, as far as pivots go,

and maybe this isn't a pivot,

this was probably always planned,

but I do think this is probably a

smart route to take.

Well,

it would bring more people to their

events.

Exactly.

And the Masters are looking for different

comps in person.

Yeah.

And,

and Jenny talked about what we talked

about before we went on the air.

Uh,

it makes sense because monster was

previously Jason Ainsley's event and he's

also the WFP director.

Right.

Yeah.

We actually,

the three of us talked about that before

we went on the air that it does

make sense that monster games would be a

qualifier for that.

Um,

So there it is.

So when they said I was just making

stuff up for a smear campaign,

there's one piece of evidence to show that

my rumors are starting to come true.

Starting to come true.

We'll see about the six figures when

everybody withdraws and turns down

contracts.

So there's that.

I don't have the pencil, pen,

and because I was at the airport today,

pencil, pen, and Sharpie in the loaded in.

So we're just going to do it off

the cuff.

First pencil, pen,

or Sharpie for the night is the theory

behind a season long test is something

that should be explored as a concept for

future seasons.

And where I came up with this is

Carolyn has argued that the open should

carry over to the quarterfinals.

And then it becomes like a more of

a season long test.

Now we have only if videos are public

and only if videos are public,

like our world,

we can make it whatever we want.

Yeah, sure.

Okay.

Now we've never stretched it on to like

the semis.

Right.

But,

the one thing that I do like about

the concept of WFP is that you have

more tests to throw together to make a

more complete test.

Now, whether they did that or not,

we're going to talk about that in a

second.

So pencil, pen, or Sharpie,

the theory behind a season long test is

something that should be considered for

future seasons.

I believe so.

So I, I, I strongly believe.

Sharpie.

I think all tests are relevant.

I'd say Penn, Penn for sure in CrossFit,

like CrossFit games.

I would venture more towards the pencil

side.

I like,

I love the idea of open quarterfinals to

get you there,

but I do think the games in and

of itself are,

is should be its own test for the

CrossFit games.

I don't, I, for the,

for the CrossFit season,

I wouldn't say it should be every score

wrapped together,

but I do think to get there,

they should wrap them together.

But I do, I totally agree.

I think it should be explored out of

something like if WFP is trying to become

a, these tour stops, like I prefer,

I prefer that system points lending

through the season.

So my idea is that it's Penn because

I think that you could carry it all

the way to semifinals,

but I am in agreement with you that

the games is separate.

It's the qualifier.

Is everything before rolled over?

And maybe semifinals is worth more points

like the WFP did with...

with their final tour stop.

Yeah.

But like open quarters,

semis are double onto the, onto the game.

The games is its own because it is

a ten,

twelve event thing that can be a

standalone test.

The rest of them you're trying to squeeze

into a weekend or a shorter timeframe.

Right.

I think anything that's online is,

can get on the same leaderboard the moment

it's in person even if it's the same

workouts it's very difficult to replicate

the weather the floor distances like all

of that but if you we're all doing

the same open workouts quarterfinals open

or online semifinals those are all

different styles if you had all different

styles of tests they're all relevant

Like, yeah,

the open is light and less skillful,

but not less important.

You still should be able to do a

bunch of burpees and move a light dumbbell

snatch and toaster bars.

And if you're,

if you're gas doing burpees,

but you can do legless rope climbs and

lift heavy,

you don't have good conditioning.

Like those are relevant tests.

As soon as we get to the quarters

and on an online site means everything

gets very heavy and high skill and people

have big holes and

And I think that those tests are valuable.

So anything that's online, public videos,

more scrutiny of the videos,

and they could all play into one large

leaderboard so that the right people get

to the games through an online path,

if you want to go through an online

path.

So Larry Young says pencil because the new

open is such an outlier.

Yes.

For the old open.

I think because it's more not liar,

it's even more important to combine it

with the quarterfinal scores because it's

only three tests because you don't get a

chance to do heavy or you don't get

to do high skill gymnastics.

It's important to keep those cardio pieces

as part of the quarterfinal test that does

have heavy,

that does have high skill gymnastics.

Right.

And the quarterfinals is kind of a

continuation of the open from past where

weeks maybe four and five were more heavy

and had higher skills.

You're just getting a little bit more

tests of that.

Let's say you have five tests in the

quarters that are more skillful and heavy

and three in the open that are less.

Well,

now you have eight tests that we all

took.

Why do only three or four,

like five of them matter?

Makes no sense to me.

Right.

I just think it spreads it out over

eight events now.

You just do it.

Just the people that have done those eight

tests are on the leaderboard together.

Open videos have at it.

Yeah.

So the reason we bring that up is

because that is what the WFP is trying

to do, right?

So we're going to talk about them.

The big breaking news of the day.

It's funny because The Spin just put it

out that,

and it came out in a press release,

that Danielle Brandon has been replaced by

Maribel Gallardo.

Gallardo?

Gallardo.

Gallardo.

um from spain uh holly saw her invite

acceptance on ig this afternoon so we've

been trying to follow it but we the

whole time we saw it we were like

riley bb is supposed to be the next

person up and um and then it turned

out that riley has according to the spins

article uh she has declined her invite and

then maribel is now the choice to go

And Spin put out a poll question earlier

this week,

should a decline of invite be the same

as a withdrawal?

And my response to him off to the

side was, I think a decline is worse.

Yeah, kind of.

because the reason I say that is you're

talking about young hungry athletes who

would be starving for attention and

exposure and they're deciding it's not

worth it.

Yeah.

It's a little,

the time of year and to be told

two weeks before you need to travel out

there right around Christmas.

I can see why some people might have

to decline at this point.

Um,

But yeah,

you would think these people are hungry

for it.

I mean,

maybe they know it's mathematically

impossible,

even if they went and won this,

to get into the twentieth spot.

So why go?

Why spend the money?

And I'm guessing that's the case for these

people who are sitting thirty-eighth

point-wise.

Even if they won,

I don't think they can get twentieth

place.

The people getting backfilled,

like they don't have their transportation

stuff paid for.

Only the twenty athletes, right?

So they're on their pockets there.

Right.

Are they guaranteed money, though,

even for last place,

like at thirtieth place?

I believe so.

So at a minimum, at a minimum,

you can maybe get even.

Maybe.

Probably not.

To Copenhagen for an American?

I mean,

I understand why these Europeans are

taking it, but like...

it's,

it's going to be tough to a tough

sell here two weeks before to push some

Americans over there that don't have

expenses covered.

Yeah.

Cause if it's just like a thousand,

even two thousand won't really cover it.

So it's like at that point,

you're probably best just to take time,

get ready for Christmas or whatever you

want to do for the next year.

It says too big of a risk.

It's like a fighter filling in last

minute.

Um,

just don't think there's a i don't think

there's a net benefit like i don't think

they can like i don't think they can

points wise win a spot so why why

go because guaranteed money to win or like

to go if people keep withdrawing they're

getting closer and closer to twenty

without even going yeah i don't know i

mean maribel's jumped eight spots just in

withdrawals just saying

Yeah, I don't know.

And this is what I would say.

If you see these workouts and this is

your home run, you've got a shot.

No matter where you're at.

Well, that's true.

But if you're Jamie and you see these

workouts, you're like, no,

not even worth my time.

No.

And I think that's what you're seeing with

withdrawals right now.

Danielle Brandon has been fighting a back

injury for as long as I've known her.

And you see these workouts?

She's probably like,

not worth me ruining a season over.

I just came off Rogue that was heavy,

heavy.

And now I see these workouts and I'm

like, not worth it.

And she's up there in points, isn't she?

She is.

She's done well at both of them.

I think she's like...

third or fifth overall.

She's way up there.

I think even if she went and took

last on those three, four events,

I still think she could finish top twenty.

So it is interesting to me because she's

basically saying these events are not

worth...

are not worth me a contract for next

year.

Like I already know I don't want to

participate in this season.

Yeah.

I think what you're seeing right now is

people's decisions.

I think for next year, right.

Whether they're continuing and keeping it

as an option or have given up and

I've already made up their mind next year

that they're doing the game circuit only.

She was fifth by out out of fifty

five points out of first.

Yeah.

Which is nothing with double points.

No.

Yeah,

and just to refresh everybody's memory,

it's Amy Kringle in first,

Lucy Campbell in second,

Laura Horvath in third,

Ariel Lowen in fourth.

It was Danielle Brandon in fifth,

Emma Lawson in sixth,

Emma Tall in seventh.

Emma Tall is still in?

As of now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

like some of these people in that range,

even if they're not feeling awesome at

this point,

I feel like might as well go.

Because I think they can,

if they want to participate in this season

next year,

like I think they've done enough to squeak

by.

Is there any additional money?

I don't get how this part works.

So if they've already made their contract,

is there money to win at this particular

event?

Like the thirty K at this one as

well.

And like the same amount that there's not.

Yeah.

No,

there's not a prize purse for this event.

Like,

if Danielle showed up and got twentieth

here,

and that put her into twelfth overall,

she would win twelfth overall's prize

purse from the whole season.

And if that is above her thirty thousand

dollar contract,

then she would get more from the year.

Which,

that's where I feel like people like

Hatfield and stuff,

like

It's a little weird to me that they've

just decided they don't want to

participate in this anymore.

Like they probably could have won some

more money.

Because it's that plus the guaranteed of

wherever you are from the eighty thousand

to twentieth place to ten K for next

year as well.

So you're it's whatever the difference is,

if there is one.

Plus the guarantee of the next year.

Correct.

Yes.

But anything you want on the previous tour

stops goes towards your baseline contract.

So you may already be over that.

If you're Amy Kringle,

you're probably already over your

guarantee.

And everything you make now is way above.

It's more additional money.

My only thought process is a couple of

these people signed big,

like the eighty hundred thousand dollar

range.

And

just are, I mean, no, they,

they can't get anything more out of this.

So they're just taking the money that they

got and being done.

And again,

that's why you don't do things like this.

It has to be merit-based.

Like you have to go earn it.

You can't just give people money.

Well,

it is going to be merit-based going

forward.

And so, yeah,

that was just for the first year.

Yeah.

They had to start somewhere, but

I disagree.

They could have started with an online

qualifier.

But that's over.

We can't go back.

We can't go back.

Now it's merit-based.

It's based on your season.

And they're in such a pickle now.

I don't even know what any of this

is going to mean going forward.

So here are the workouts.

Now, again,

this is supposed to be a season-long test.

And I thought Hiller did a great job

by putting them all on a whiteboard and

showing, like,

this should all be one big test.

And he definitely found flaws in it all,

right?

That there was too much of this,

not enough of that.

And I thought it was a cool exercise

to take two opposite people and predict

kind of where they'd finish and see...

was it a fair test across the board?

Like Landon Collins and Travis mayor are

two opposite type athletes.

And how would they finish?

Okay.

I don't know if you you've seen that,

but yeah.

Logan Collins.

Yeah.

So let's go through the workouts.

I don't have all the,

The other twelve that go with these, nine.

So I don't have the twenty-one.

I just have the final nine.

But let's talk about them.

So we've already talked about the double

swim.

We don't need to go over that again.

Then I think we even talked about the

five rounds for time with the parallette

handstand push-ups and the toes-to-bar and

the axle-bar deadlifts.

Yep.

I think that's a good test.

I like that one.

Then we go to pro...

This is the project one test.

Okay.

Do you want me to go back?

No, no, no.

Did it say it's kipping hands and pushups,

right?

For that one.

I don't think we know.

I don't think they're going to release

that.

I'll assume it is.

Then the third event is the pro project

one event,

which is the whole community is to do.

I just don't get the weight vest.

Like what?

I just think it's like,

it's over programmed.

Yeah.

Why do you need a weight vest for

the first half?

Then take it off.

Like, I don't know.

What does a weight vest do on a

skier?

I mean, it's annoying on the shoulders.

Yeah.

C two bike.

Does it affect your C two bike?

It's just something on your chest to mess

with your breathing.

I feel like you just...

Those vests get annoying.

Yeah, CrossFit.

Nothing like a vested bike or an erg.

Elite fitness.

I just think it's unnecessary.

If you're going to do a cardio event,

do a cardio event.

You already have it with a bunch of

machines in there too.

Adding a weight vest only helps people

that have a little bit more mass anyways

because it's just...

Well, it is sponsored by Five Eleven.

There you go.

That's why it's there.

Right down here,

you can see presented by five, eleven.

So it's sixty fifty calorie C two bike,

eight hundred meter run,

one hundred twenty meter dumb dumbbell

farmer carry eight hundred meter run,

sixty fifty cow ski,

eight hundred meter run.

Then you drop the vest,

sixty sandbag step overs.

So I'm assuming you're holding the sandbag

stepping over a box.

Yeah, like one of these ones.

Mm hmm.

Uh, eight hundred meter run, sixty,

fifty calorie row,

eight hundred meter run,

a hundred and twenty meter sandbag bear

hug carry, eight hundred meter run,

time cap, fifty minutes.

Sheesh.

It's gross.

It's a long event.

I like the, I like it.

I just, I like a long event.

Um, but yeah,

the weight vest is completely unnecessary.

This isn't supposed to be the event that,

like, community-wide does, too.

Yes.

I wonder in the community version if

there's no weight vest and they're trying

to up it for the elites.

And I do think that reps are down.

Okay.

How many people in the community want to

do this workout?

Jamie, Sam Briggs.

Yes.

I guess it is in Europe and Europe

love great capacity, love running,

they're fit.

I understand.

I feel bad for the people judging this

event.

That is awful.

During the eight hundred,

you're not really doing much.

Yep.

You're just waiting until they come back

and hope that they count their laps

correctly.

So my question is,

you've done a double swim with some

machines.

And then this for the third event,

this is the I just feel like your

monostructural.

Pieces are.

I don't know.

I'm just I don't know programming.

I'm just gonna let you guys talk.

I'll shut up.

Well,

I don't think the swimmer is going to

necessarily be the best runner.

I know,

but you're not really testing any skill at

this point.

No.

Except for the handstand pushups.

The parallette handstand pushups.

All right.

Then we go to a one rep max

snatch.

Time cap, eight minutes.

Hate it.

Well, I mean, if you have nine events,

I think a one rep max of something

is fine.

Like in general.

Um, if I had less than that,

then I did.

So they've had a, a max,

a max clean, a max jerk,

a max snatch.

That's a ton of favoring the strength

athletes.

When you add these up over all the

events and all the points go towards this

fight.

Like that's crazy.

Yeah.

And that clean ladder is almost like a

max too.

Exactly.

Yeah.

then the fifth event is a hundred wall

balls hundred fifty weighted double unders

fifty weighted ghd sit-ups hundred and

fifty weighted double unders hundred

pull-ups time cap eighteen minutes gnarly

i'm i like this one's okay like out

of the out of all the events of

the this weekend i i like this one

or the parallel hand sample

Yeah, I agree.

This one's fine.

I personally don't like the weighted GHG

setups.

I've never liked them.

I don't know why we keep doing them.

At least it's only fifty.

They've done it twice, yeah.

Weighted double unders, that's fine.

I'm assuming it's the Valitez maybe rope?

Yeah.

Because that's sponsor.

Yep.

So I don't know that skipping rope,

if it's heavy handles, heavy cables,

or which one it is.

This one's okay, though.

I wonder if they have to use the

rope.

This is where Colton had the issue with

the Velita's rope.

At the games.

Oh, it was at the games.

It wasn't this.

Okay.

CrossFit says,

this is in reference to the one Ripmac

snatch.

Great for socials.

The other strengths were balanced with the

second piece.

I mean, it can be great for socials.

It can be awful for socials too.

If you have a,

a Brooke Wells incident or, I mean,

you just,

we get picked on by the high level

Ali IG people pulling up our videos and

rehashing our lifts.

Like they're not perfect.

Maybe, maybe we don't need to do these.

The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the,

People get away with the chest of our

two though.

They don't actually touch their chest.

You think they like a loose shirt?

Yes.

I feel like most people are like shirtless

now by that,

by this point in the workout.

Well, that's true.

Except for me on the floor.

The thing about a hundred pull-ups too,

like that's nothing for an elite athlete.

When it's a dense set like this,

like that muscle stamina starts,

because it'd be different if it's like ten

rounds of ten, fifteen, you know, five,

fifteen, ten, right?

Like the intensity is up higher,

but like having dense sets like that of

hundred, you can overdo it on...

Like at the,

at the end of a workout.

Like, I mean, what was it at crash?

Carolyn went last year.

Was it fifty chest of ours?

Because people were doing like ones and

twos at the end of that workout.

Yeah, but I'm saying regular pull-ups.

Like I remember in the regional days when

like Camille did eighty to start off a

set.

Like it's different than a chest of ours.

Not at the end of the workout.

It's not, I think it's going to,

you have wall balls will get your

shoulders fatigued.

Then the heavy double runners will get

your grip fatigued a lot,

grip and shoulders.

But that heavy, that heavy rope is,

is affecting your grip to then go into

the pull-ups like this.

This will,

they won't be doing a set of eight.

I don't think you're going to, yeah.

You're not going to see somebody go do

two sets here.

Like it's going to get broken up.

CrossFit says,

now we know why Caro wears oversized tees.

They're not oversized tees.

They're regular tees.

Some of the girls wear very large tees.

I'm just a regular t-shirt girl.

All right.

Sixth, buy-in of a thirty-six meter run.

We've talked about that online.

What a buy-in.

At first,

when I was running eighteen meters,

I was like,

Eighteen meters buy-in?

I'm like, what is this?

Five rounds of twelve meter handstand walk

obstacle.

Thirty-six meter shuttle run.

Buy-out six meter handstand walk obstacle.

Six meter.

We don't have the details of the obstacle.

Is it zigzag?

Is it the stair with the

with the ramp um so i guess well

i didn't look at the videos on youtube

or their video but after five rounds of

doing the obstacle for twelve meters each

round yeah why not just have them run

to the end i'm assuming you have to

finish that last little obstacle before

versus running on top of the obstacle

that's how i visualize it right now okay

I don't,

it's going to come down to just execution

of execution and speed of the, um,

handstand obstacle,

because if you jog really fast, well,

then are you able to kick up and

go into these obstacles?

Winded high heart rate upside down to be

able to repeat.

So someone like Danielle would be great at

this, right?

Cause she's a great runner and amazing on

her hands under that high heart rate or

area.

We'll crush this.

Um, yeah, but.

Yeah,

it's going to come down to the execution

and what those obstacles are.

Actually,

someone like Andrea Solberg could be very,

very impressive here.

If you've ever seen that girl do some

obstacle stuff on her hand,

like it's crazy.

Then the seventh event,

we have five rounds for time,

two rope climbs,

three hundred meter run and cleans.

And it is a ladder, a four, three,

two, one,

one with increasing weight on the bar each

time.

unnecessarily heavy.

This should have just been a clean ladder

or just go.

I mean, this is just silly to me.

What's interesting is like when you start

going heavy like this,

you normally want to,

some people like to lift and lifters,

but then it's paired with rope climbs and

run.

You can't wear running shoes because that

ruins the,

like the shoes for your rope climbs.

So you're wearing trainers here.

Um, and sometimes, especially in a school,

like let's say squat clean, um,

You'll see some misses just because people

would prefer to lift those heavyweights

with their lifters.

So how often do people train these loads

without their special shoes, right?

Right.

I mean, in the first event,

we had the run, rope climb, snatch.

No, you had the run, ring muscle-ups,

and snatch.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Is what I'm thinking of.

But that was a light snatch.

It was a lighter snatch.

I wouldn't say it was light.

People were failing that last bar.

Not because it wasn't light,

just because they had gone to their max

capacity with the ring.

I would say it was the right weight.

Any heavier,

you would have actually had to back off

of the workout to be able to hit

that bar.

It was a weight that you could go

touch and go,

but it probably wasn't worth it until the

last round when you try to go for

it.

Um, but yeah, these, these weights are,

are very heavy.

Um, ridiculously heavy,

especially with the field that's coming

now.

I don't know how many, I mean, two,

now for the girls is a weight that

I want to say is average now,

almost average.

Be curious to see what that is in

comparison to what the field cleaned at

the past, um, event.

Three forty to forty.

Yeah.

What's the over under on the number of

women who can't finish the ladder?

I'm starting to look at eight.

OK, so three.

So two rope climbs plus three hundred

meters, just that five times.

How long is that?

It's what, eight hundred meter run?

Well,

you have three hundred meters every time,

plus two rope climbs.

So you're looking at about, you know,

two and a half minutes times five.

You're ten.

Let's let's call it ten minutes right

there.

Yeah.

Then you got five minutes to do these.

It is hard to read CrossFit.

I mean,

some of them just might need more time

to get settled.

They might miss.

Some of them definitely will get time

capped.

What did the weight go up to at

crash in that double under total bar

workout?

Two or five, maybe.

And there was seven,

eight girls there who couldn't even do the

last bar.

But I, I think this is,

I don't think it's the same field.

One, two,

I don't think there was like a hundred

toast bars in that and double unders.

Yeah, but this is event seven.

I mean,

is this the first event on the third

day?

With all these replacements and the

withdrawals,

I think a third of the field doesn't

finish.

I totally agree, Scott.

It's definitely too heavy.

They didn't need this event.

You can have a moderate heavy clean

without it being like almost at people's

maxes, like ninety percent.

I don't think it needed to go above

two or five.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Two Oh five, two,

fifteen would've been fine.

Give it three weeks.

It could be a similar field to the

crash.

I mean,

I would say it kind of almost like,

sure.

There's, you got five,

six there at the top that are going

to probably be okay here,

but you go down the list.

People are give it three weeks,

weeks and denses in.

Yeah.

I mean, Haley's probably thankful.

She's not going.

All right.

Eighth workout is for time.

Thirty twenty four cal echo bike.

You have to read it like Hiller.

Echo bike.

Echo bike.

Some of his takes on some of these

things just really boggle my mind.

Twenty saw devil's press.

Twenty saw overhead squat squat.

um yeah and then fourteen saw devil's

press fourteen saw oh squat thirty twenty

four cal echo bike eight saw devil's press

and eight saw oh squat i mean another

workout that goes all the way until

you know,

one hundred seventy pounds in the

dumbbell,

that overhead squat will start testing

people's mobility for sure.

A lot of people get very toesy on

the the dumbbell overhead squats and lean

a lot to one side.

So I think we're going to be seeing

a lot of people struggling with one

hundred and seventy pounds in that

overhead squat position,

really being challenged with their

their positionings there.

Um, CrossFit says, again,

another power output heavy one.

Yes.

It's crazy that we could use all that

space for the full words.

Yeah.

There's a lot of empty space on this.

I mean,

I write it like that when I write

it.

I do too.

Like this doesn't bother me at all,

but that's how I write it.

Since two thousand eleven.

And I've never seen saw a single arm.

That's how I write it.

That's how I write it every time.

It's never been that way on any of

the places I've been.

I usually put a backsplash in there or

I guess forward slash.

I usually use S forward slash A whenever

I do single arm or single leg.

I have a forward slash.

But yeah, this doesn't bother me at all.

That's exactly how I write it.

But then like I would write it.

I probably wouldn't write single arm

overhead if I'm sending it to someone.

It's more like my notes would be like

S-A-O-H.

Very common.

I would have used O-H-S and not O-H-Squat.

Yeah, I would do OHS too.

That's true.

It's like a mix of some things are

abbreviated, some things are not.

And that's why it looks weird to me.

Like saw by itself doesn't look right

because OHS isn't beside it.

It's OH squat.

And CrossFit says write it out the first

time and then abbreviate the rest of the

repeats.

Yeah.

That's fair.

Yeah, I like that there.

Another workout that has machine heavy on

the overhead squats at the end,

coming off the heavy cleans.

Jay Burch asks, is this alternating?

It does not say.

I doubt that you have to.

I don't think you have to.

Yeah,

I'm sure you can do whatever you want.

You can do five per arm.

You can do every other.

Yeah, you'll pick whatever arm.

Yeah.

I didn't change devil's press into an

acronym.

Weird.

Yeah, we didn't want the DP.

And the box jumps are what height?

Thirty.

Thirty six.

Thirty.

Yeah, this is.

Yeah, I.

Everything about this is big, big man,

power output, strong.

Like, I mean,

I would like the jumping personally,

but yeah.

Uh,

the final workout is three rounds for

time.

Ten, eight ring muscle ups,

eight thruster,

nine meter front rack walking lunge.

Time cap, ten minutes.

Short barrel.

I'm assuming that's the bar.

Probably.

Shorty bar.

yeah yeah shorty bar what's the weight on

that barbell this green is very hard which

makes it feel even heavier yeah on the

on the thruster um yeah that's tough

that's tough workout what was the weight

one eighty five one twenty five whoo on

the thruster i'm not as worried with the

walking lunge because like i would

probably go like this just to save my

my shoulders and stuff but

Those eight thrusters at the one twenty

five paired with the eight ring muscle

ups.

Is it three rounds?

Spicy.

Yeah, this is snarly.

Again, overprogrammed.

If you're colorblind, it's gray on gray.

Yeah,

I don't think it needed to be this

heavy at all.

Yeah,

we make it more make it more sprinty

at the end, make it lighter.

then one,

and let's get more of a race.

Yep.

Do you,

do you think they're looking at these

withdrawals and looking at this

programming and thinking this is why we're

losing some people or do you think they

don't, they're unaware of that?

I think they're unaware.

I think they're oblivious.

Will thinks they're great events.

He would probably crush them.

He probably can't see the fault in it.

I just... I personally...

And you guys know my bias.

So everything to me just is heavy.

Unnecessarily heavy for heavy's sake.

And I just...

i don't know i'm sick of it i'm

sick of seeing like even at crash like

people just standing there not able to do

that last bar like you could have been

the fittest person there and then you had

to stop and people pass you i hate

seeing that at events but i think you

should be able to clean tool five at

that level like i don't think that that's

well they when you invite masters there

that can't like that that's different but

i don't i wouldn't say that like the

last bar crash was ridiculously heavy

I think this clean ladder is definitely

very, very heavy.

Overly heavy for what it needed to be.

We're going to see a lot of standing

around.

I think they could have ended it around

two fifteen.

And that would have been fine.

What happened to just two forty two is

insane.

It's insane.

It's insane.

Like the one year at the games we

ended,

it was the two hundred meter run with

the the cleans and we ended at two

thirty five for the females.

And I think a lot of the girls

got capped there.

Yeah.

And that was twenty twenty.

Haley had to stand there and Sam,

they just stood there like that's not fun

to watch.

I remember standing there like I think I

had like tears in my eyes just watching

them just stand there like this is awful.

Cause you had people with eight minutes in

their cap last time.

And I want to say that like two

Forty may have been the average,

but they had eight minutes to kind of

build up to that under fatigue with the

run rope climb,

not maybe having their shoes or the right

setup.

I think it'll be tougher half the field

at least.

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So now, our next pencil, pen,

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cool news.

Pencil, pen, or Sharpie,

CrossFit Media is getting back to the

roots of the methodology and it's

rebuilding the base.

Pen.

Yeah, pen.

I agree with that statement.

The base, yeah.

I still think that they need to work

on a little bit more expanding.

But I think it's good to rally to

get the base on board and the people

who are currently doing CrossFit on board.

But more to get people into our gyms.

Yeah.

More clearer like

ig and facebook posts of what is crossfit

like short catching yes consistent

messaging that can be easily shared that

draws people in yeah just more more

frequent it's it's like there there's some

good stuff i still want it more uh

clock says pencil

Um,

what I've seen is like these really cool,

like highlight videos and an affiliate

where it's people of different ages,

people of different groups, um,

that we had the F the quick fix,

um,

You know, CrossFit's the answer.

We had Forging Elite Fitness.

Now they're running James Sprague is What

Makes a Good Coach.

I don't know if you guys have seen

that now.

It's like a Q&A with James Sprague talking

about what makes a good coach in the

affiliate, which is interesting.

But what we stumbled upon last week is

there was a gentleman named Ethan Bernard

who was going to Tennessee to visit family

for Thanksgiving.

and i'm going to pull up his instagram

here sure i am um this is the

post that i saw that started me wondering

what was going on and

trying crossfit for the first time today

right now we're in tennessee visiting my

family for thanksgiving i'm really excited

for that but an opportunity came up today

for us to visit one of the biggest

crossfit gyms in the country and i'm going

to be doing a full class this afternoon

i'm nervous but i'm excited starting out

the day with some clean protein i got

my so this guy has been on a

weight loss journey he started at six

hundred and sixty pounds he is now down

to four sixty

And that big Jim,

as we all could figure out who have

been around the CrossFit space,

was CrossFit Mayhem.

And he went the day before Thanksgiving.

There were stories on his Instagram that

are no longer up there of him working

out with Josh Malone at Mayhem,

being taught like push-ups on a barbell on

a rig, those kinds of things.

Mm-hmm.

was doing a show last week and people

were asking what are they doing with this

they need to film this we need to

do all this kind of thing right i

reached out to jenna halka there is a

video coming out the end of this week

on this guy's adventure at mayhem and i

am so pumped for that

That's great.

That is great.

I think I do.

It's stuff like that,

like scaled pushups showing that someone

that size can get in there and do

it.

And there is an option because people

still are like, it's too hard.

I can't do it.

I need to lose weight before I go

in or look a certain way.

Yeah.

People need to see that you can walk

in and do.

We will find you something to do.

It's doable.

Mm hmm.

went off on a little riff over the

week because some of the comments were

crossfit's dangerous you shouldn't be

doing that at your weight blah blah blah

and i lost my mind on the lunch

show this week i'm not going to rehash

that um but as someone who walked into

a crossfit gym at four hundred five

hundred pounds um like i had such good

coaching that showed me a way to do

crossfit in a way that i was successful

and i

lost over two hundred pounds myself so

like I know it works and I not

only did I not get hurt the aches

and pains of my life started to go

away and so I really hate when people

step in on the internet and someone who

has already lost two hundred pounds try to

get in their way of accomplishing even

more that really got under my skin this

week but

Um,

but I cannot wait to see the results

of this.

And now I've been following this guy, um,

as he continues his journey, um,

through the weight loss thing.

And I think it's going to be fun

to see.

So does he belong to a CrossFit gym

at home?

This was his first attempt at CrossFit was

at mayhem.

Okay.

Um,

he's been working with a nutritionist and

a, uh, like a private, uh, trainer.

Okay.

Yeah.

And he'd now he wanted,

I don't know what the whole story is.

I'm sure we'll find out more in the

video.

If,

if that's something he wants to dabble

into now or not, I don't know.

All I know is the visit to mayhem.

And in his, in some,

some of the stories, he was like,

it was awesome.

It was hard.

I had a good time and he seemed

to really enjoy it.

So I'm anxious to see how the video

comes out.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I agree.

We need to see more of that kind

of stuff.

And especially if you can put, you know,

different age or different bodies in

classes where you see them doing the

different movements and just pump that

content all the time to like.

reiterate to people that what they're

seeing from the people that have thousands

of followers or hundreds of thousands of

followers or the CrossFit games is not

what you're going to be forced to do

at a CrossFit gym.

And that everyone is at their own pace,

pushing themselves at their, you know,

ability and at the right intensity for

them, their relative intensity, right?

Like that stuff is so important to see.

My, um,

my only suggestion to them at this point,

one, well,

it's actually to have an action item at

the end of your videos.

Yeah.

Like how do you get to an affiliate?

Just tell me how to do that.

And the other thing is,

and this is something that Savannah said a

long time ago,

it doesn't need to be so polished every

time, you know,

it can be like Instagram is full of

people with an iPhone.

And they're popular and they go viral and

they do amazing things on there.

Not everything has to be an eight K

camera that's edited down to the minutia

of it all.

Just put, like Carolyn said,

pump out the content.

Don't let the editing slow you down.

There is stuff that is really,

really good that you can just pump out.

Everyday heroes, just pumping them out.

It doesn't have to be glossy and shiny

every single attempt.

Jay Burch said a relative intensity.

Well said, Carolyn.

So that was really cool.

I was so glad I stumbled upon that

and got to follow up with Jenna on

that.

Yeah,

I hope that they do a follow-up down

the road to see how he's doing and

just continue to follow his journey.

It's interesting.

Because they did one on you when you

started, right?

Like a long, long, long time ago?

Yeah.

What year was that?

It was just five years ago during COVID.

It was twenty twenty?

Twenty twenty.

But there's never been no like follow up.

Like I want to see like they should

do like follow up down the road, right?

Yeah.

Be good to see and just keep people

engaged with just that stuff.

John George says,

I still think a spin on the I

am CrossFit would be great.

Show people in their everyday life job and

then in the box with them saying I

am CrossFit.

Yeah, that'd be good.

That'd be cool.

And that wouldn't need to be glossy.

That could just be quick hitters on an

iPhone.

Some affiliates do it,

but it needs to come from the main

account.

Yeah.

There's just way more followers.

CrossFit says,

I miss the old workout of the day

videos.

Yeah.

If they just had a repository where

affiliates could like,

affiliates would love to be featured on

CrossFit HQ.

Just make a repository for them to dump

like an IM CrossFit video.

And you'd have thousands to choose from.

Yep.

All right.

Last pencil, pen,

or Sharpie for the night.

Pencil, pen, or Sharpie.

Pre-physical screenings are more optics

than true value.

Sharpie.

Say that again.

Pre-physical screenings are more optics

than true value.

I guess it depends who's doing the

physicals and because people,

if it's their own people,

they're going to sign off on whatever

injury they have or pre.

There's a, I don't know.

You could find out stuff,

but it just depends who's taking it and

what they're even pre-screening for.

So the reason this is brought up is

CrossFit has announced that they are going

to force all individual and team athletes

at the games to go through a physical

prior to competing at the games.

However,

that physical is done on your own dime

and you just bring,

I'm assuming you'll be given a sheet that

needs to be filled out.

I would hope something to make it

consistent.

But if you get to take it to

your own doctor and,

I think it's all optics.

Yep.

But like in sports,

like even if there's trades, right.

In professional sports,

do you have to pass some sort of

physical before, you know,

the trade deal is even accepted sometimes.

So it's not like it's a new thing

in our sport.

That's not happening elsewhere.

Like it does happen in every sport.

Yeah.

And sometimes but it's done by the new

team who's going to do a thorough

investigation in this scenario.

Yeah, because they don't they'll be like,

oh,

you didn't tell us before this trade that

this person has this, this,

this wrong deals off.

Right.

Um, or just,

you need to get medically cleared.

Even like when I was on, like,

you know, at Wisconsin,

like you couldn't play,

like you had a medical stuff,

like a testing and physical testing at the

beginning of the season.

And you have to pass those before playing.

Um, but those were done by,

by the school and yeah,

they want us to play,

but you have to still pass that in

this case.

I don't know.

I don't know how that's going to work

in terms of you're going to your own

doctor, um,

I mean,

if people have something really wrong,

they won't be able to get away with

it because, I mean,

a medical professional should be keeping

their clients safe as much as possible.

Right.

They have a duty to do no harm,

right?

Meredith says,

wouldn't a concern be for the women who

are very early pregnant and they're not

ready to announce that yet?

Well,

it's still covered by HIPAA in the States,

right?

Like if you are a,

if you are a United States citizen and

you,

nothing medical can be disclosed publicly.

I mean, that's against the law.

And there is doctor patient

confidentiality.

You think a doctor would sign off on

somebody that they knew was pregnant?

Depends on the doctor.

It does depend on the doctor.

I I'm surprised that they're not doing

this for the masters, to be honest,

that'd be the group that I'd be worried

about.

Uh,

CrossFit says just like the chiropractor

that'll prescribe peptides and TRT.

You can find them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why this is silly.

Cause you're,

you're just asking people to find ways

defending her profession.

Some docs take participation,

sports physicals seriously.

And I agree, there probably are,

there are really good doctors.

And I have found that in my own

journey to get over all this stuff I'm

going through,

there are good doctors and there are bad

doctors.

And I hate bad doctors and I love

good doctors.

But the thing is,

is if you have your own doctor that

says no,

you will go and find one that will

say yes.

That's the issue here.

If it's the same doctor that's saying no

and it won't matter if that one doctor

is going by the rules and making sure

that athlete is going to be safe.

That athlete will find someone.

If they want to compete at the games,

they're going to find whatever to compete

at the games.

Right.

That's why it's so silly.

Andrew Stem wants to know where he can

find that chiropractor.

Yeah.

um tom of the seven five seven uh

pilots with their faa physicals pilots

know which docs will sign off sign them

off and they all go to them that's

scary as i have a daughter flying in

the air currently thank you for that tom

so i've seen this a lot probably crossfit

minimizing liability yes

It's not going to minimize liability.

No.

If every athlete had to have a physical

the year that Lazar died,

everybody would still be up in arms that

CrossFit didn't do enough,

didn't have enough lifeguards,

didn't have enough safety protocols.

All of that,

those same arguments would still exist.

Yep.

When you go to a physical before you

play high school football and a kid gets

severely injured or dies on the field,

the parents still sue.

Shanna,

I found an eight-year-old athlete with a

mild coartation of the aorta.

I have never heard of that.

but there will be a record of the

doc who says no.

If an event happens,

records will be open for the lawyers.

Yeah, I guess.

I don't know.

Like Adam Banks and his wrist during the

Mighty Ducks.

That's a great movie.

That is a good movie.

I was talking about that in class like

last year and my students had no idea.

And I was like, I'm old now.

Like they didn't even know the Mighty

Ducks movie.

And this was like the hockey team that

I coached too.

And they had never seen it.

And I was so disappointed.

That's sad.

Yeah.

You got to give them homework.

You know what we should do next week

is top sports movies of all time.

It's the off season.

are we going to cover next week five

more withdrawals from wfp other let's do

sports movies or something all right um

meredith says uh shannon i'm sorry i'm

surprised it wasn't discovered younger

yeah

All right.

So that is, um, the,

the funny thing about the,

the medical issue is for people don't know

when the spin put that story out,

the picture he used was of our very

own Carolyn Prevo.

So I don't know if he was trying

to insinuate something that she was the

oldest person at the games last year or,

and that she's been a geriatric test or

something.

Um, I wasn't sure.

I was like, I was like,

why is my picture being used?

Did I have anything wrong medically?

I mean, my rash that was everywhere,

but how long did that take to clear

up?

Like, that's three weeks.

Wow.

Three weeks, I'd say.

So if you had to have medical clearance,

would your doctor clear you to compete?

did go see the medical staff the whole

time it started there like two days before

the event they gave me they were giving

me cream the whole time uh carolyn was

the only games athlete with an

osteoporosis screen oh okay wow but with

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Jay Burch asks,

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I don't think it's at that stage.

I think it's once you make the games,

you are then required to get the medical

screening.

So.

Shanna says, actually,

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No need for any screening as long as

I keep doing it.

That's awesome.

Amen, sister.

That's a video for Instagram.

There it is.

Get on that, CrossFit HQ.

Thank you, Trent Olive.

For that, I'll even call you Winter.

John George says, no bulls, I'm off.

I got to ask,

since Noble is no longer affiliated with

CrossFit, Justin had those foot problems.

He gets away from Noble and now he

doesn't have foot problems and he's

competing in running events.

Coincidence?

Probably not.

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I missed it.

Is that poor twenty-year-old still alive?

So clever.

Awesome.

Well, thanks, guys.

Thank you for being here.

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